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Old 07-21-2008, 02:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
Jarex
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Nesara

I thought this might be an interesting thing to post here. I know that many people ask what they can do to get rid of our corrupted, manipulative, and controlling governmental systems, and they always ask what they can do. Maybe this is something we can do about this.

The number one priority should be to get rid of our monetary system of money, because obviously it isn't working! For those who don't know about Nesara you can research it for yourselves but basically this is what it does...

NESARA initiates PEACE IMMEDIATELY and


1. Restores Constitutional Law in America as of NESARA’s public announcement.
2. Removes US administration officials and all members of the US Congress from their positions due to their continuous unconstitutional actions. Bush, Cheney, Cabinet members, and all members of Congress are immediately removed from office by NESARA’s public announcement; specific law enforcement personnel shall physically remove Bush government officials from their offices. These removals allow a fresh start at the national level. Using the Constitutional Line of Succession, NESARA installs Constitutionally acceptable NESARA President and Vice President Designates until new federal elections can take place within six months after NESARA’s announcement.
3. Because NESARA abolishes unconstitutional states of emergency, NESARA’s public announcement declares “peace”. US military in Iraq and Afghanistan are immediately recalled to the USA.
4. As partial remedy for 90 years of government and banking fraud, NESARA requires zeroing out of credit card balances and bank debt relief be given to Americans.
5. Initiates the US Treasury Bank System with new U.S. Treasury currency backed by gold. The Federal Reserve is abolished; Federal Reserve facilities and most personnel are absorbed into the US Treasury Bank System.
6. Abolishes Income Taxes in US and creates a national sales tax on new, non-essential items as revenue for government. Essential items such as food and medicine, and used items, are exempt from the sales tax.






Ashtar: "Greetings, Beloveds! This is a most exciting and empowering
time, as you measure it. Never before in your history/herstory have
you had such an opportunity to provide the momentum needed to
literally propel yourselves into that which we call the Golden Age.
We have done many exercises on this mission, and we shall continue to
do so, but we are also asking you, the "Ground Crew" of our Family, to
partner with us in this undertaking in 3D. We have been giving Susan
powerful and compelling information on this. Fran has written a most
eloquent and accurate description of the Truth of this mission, and
she has provided the simple means to carry it out. This is your
opportunity to come forward to stand with Beloved Dennis and to be One
with those who were called upon by St Germain to sign the original
Declaration which birthed a nation and inspired the world, thus
bringing in even more of the Light of 5D. We look forward to further
discussion of this on the special conference call which we invite you
to attend tomorrow night.
Salut!"


URGENT ACTION REQUESTED OF ALL LIGHTWORKERS THIS WEEK TO SUPPORT
CONGRESSMAN KUCINICH'S STATEMENT TO THE US HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
FREE "WETHEPEOPLEFORPEACE.ORG" CONFERENCE CALL TUESDAY, JULY 22,
STARTING AT 6:15 PM PDT. GUEST SPEAKERS TO BE ASHTAR AND OTHER
MASTERS. SEE DETAILS BELOW.

Please read www.ashtarontheroad.com/americathebeautiful.html as
background for this requested action.
"The president, vice president and all civil officers of the United
States shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction
of, treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors." - Article
II, Section 4, U.S. Constitution

If you've read many of our posts or been on our Ashtar teleconferences
in the past year, you'll hear Ashtar saying "No dates!" although
forward-moving events keep unfolding day-to-day. It's hard for our 3D
minds to grasp how to bring a 5D concept into 3D physicality, but one
given is that no dates can be given, because of the freewill of
billions. The players are always changing the quantum field with
every thought. For such new concepts as embodied in NESARA and the
entirely new worldwide financial system, there must be enough
agreement with these concepts by the major players affected to
outweigh the resistance to change. The momentum of agreement is
building daily and will continue and we can assist that momentum
exponentially by our actions.

In understanding ourselves as evolving-into-5D-humans expressing
GodSpirit in our human lives, it is so easy for our 3D minds to
interpret updates of progress by the Galactic Federation and Earth
allies as permission for us to stand back from thinking about and
involving ourselves in politics and NESARA and the state of our
government as being somehow beneath us superior evolving humans on our
way to the Golden Age. We want so much to hear that it's done that we
allow ourselves to hear it that way and we get impatient for a date to
ease our anxiety.

To expect that we as a planetary society are ready for galactic
contact before we have achieved planetary peace seems like putting the
cart before the horse. Government and financial changes must occur
before general galactic contact. To look at and become involved in
what needs changing in ourselves, and thus in our outer environment,
is the first step toward the Golden Age we claim to be coming into.
If we stand back from this involvement in changing ourselves, and thus
our external environment, we never will be in the Golden Age, since we
have not become it by our thoughts and actions.

This is not to be "fighting against" something, but to be FOR
something, or rather TO BE the embodiment of Christ in action.
NESARA, in addition to being a very real 3D law which has not been
allowed to be enacted yet, is an archetype of freedom, sovereignty,
self-reliance and self-government, or in other words, of "life,
liberty and the pursuit of happiness" that we claim to be for. To
stand up as a sovereign Christed individual and claim your
independence and freedom is the first step over the threshold of the
Golden Age and a step that only we evolving Earth humans can take.

We see that we are at the threshold now and Ashtar and the Masters
constantly encourage us to become who we are and take that step. The
step is in 3D but the consciousness of NESARA is in 5D. We must
ground 5D consciousness by taking action here in 3D. Only then does
it come into being. And this brings us to the specific action
urgently needed throughout this week leading up to Congressman
Kucinich's address before the US House Judiciary Committee on Friday,
July 25, 2008.

We ask you to go to www.wethepeopleforpeace.org - Home where you will find
the NEW July 4, 2008 Unanimous Declaration of Independence for the
United States and the World. This was co-created at our Los Angeles
workshop on June 28th, and it was signed there by Ashtar, St.Germain,
Sananda, Sekhmet, Lady Master Nada, Lady Liberty, Lady Nesara,
KwanYin, Mother Mary, Metatron, ArchAngel Michael, Buddha, Mother
Gaia, and the Solar Tribunal, and by those Family members attending in
their human bodies. We have advised that this revised Declaration be
published unsigned, needing only your signature to complete it.

On the 'NEW Declaration' page at the bottom you will find the Word and
Adobe downloads for printing out either the full declaration with all
35 of the original articles of impeachment of June 9th this year or
the abbreviated document simply referring to these 35 articles. As to
the July 10th single article*** introduced by Congressman Kucinich, by
intent we consider this article*** as appended to the Unanimous
Declaration, although it occurred after the date of July 4th. For the
purposes of this action, we are asking you to copy and paste the 'July
4, 2008 Unanimous Declaration' into emails as below or to fax a
printed copy.

From now until at least the time of Kucinich's statement to the
Judiciary Committee, we ask you to fax or email DAILY, repeating the
text of the declaration (either the abbreviated or full version) to
the Judiciary Committee Contact the Committee on the Judiciary
and to the Speaker of the US House. Speaker Nancy Pelosi | Contact Us
Please also email your two Senators and one Representative whose web
email forms can be found under the 'Congresssional Addresses' page.
Congress.org Home If any of the Judiciary Committee
members also are your Representative, you can also email them on their
personal webforms. Please change the title of your message each day,
so that it doesn't get bumped off as a duplicate.

Congressman Kucinich said in a recent interview when asked what is the
best thing that activists can do to change the direction of this
country now:
"To practice being free, every day. That may sound trite, but to
exercise the capacity of citizenship. To stand up and speak out in
forums both large and small, to write that letter, to make the phone
call, to meet with a Representative, to organize rallies, to bring
people together, to have discussion groups, to reclaim a sense of
agency as citizens, because that's a quality that has been lost in the
last seven years.
"We can reclaim it. It was lost, it can be reclaimed. But we can only
do it through action, and in a sense we have to acquire a capacity for
active thought, word, and deed. And it can be done in a way that can
be dedicated, it can be done in a way that's joyous, but it needs to
be done. We need to remember the ferment that caused a nation to be
born. And the nation is born and dies everyday by each of us,
depending on our inclination to challenge the status quo, or to accept
it."

He further said about grassroots activism, "That's what's gonna save
America. Because what happens in Washington, everything in Washington
is now from the top down. We're not paying enough attention to what's
happening at that Grassroots level. And yet, the Grassroots activity,
in its totality, has the ability to change Washington. People who are
in positions of power... they lack a certain amount of humility, and
secretly understand that they could be toppled very easily. And the
system has a very fine line that supports its continuation, and if
people get involved and decide to change it, they can do it. And
that's actually our inheritance as you read the Declaration of
Independence. If you don't like the system, you can change it."

So we are asking you on behalf of ourselves, our country, the world
and all the Masters who signed this inspired July 4, 2008 Unanimous
Declaration of Independence for the United States and the World, to
stand up as sovereign Christed Beings and change the system. The
opportunity presented this week couldn't be better to take this action
as we step over the threshold into 5D.

*** "Deceiving Congress with Fabricated Threats of Iraq WMDs to
Fraudulently Obtain Support for an Authorization of the Use of
Military Force Against Iraq", title of article of impeachment
presented to Congress July 10, 2008.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Kucini...nt_article_07\
10.html

We invite you to join us on a FREE teleconference Tuesday, July 22nd,
starting at 6:15 pm PDT. The number to call is 1-712-451-6000, pin
967962#. (As always, you are responsible for your own long distance
phone charges.) We will discuss ideas for spreading this action and
will have Ashtar and other guest speakers to give us further inspiration.


www.AshtarontheRoad.com www.wethepeopleforpeace.org - Home
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Very neat concept. I've thought to myself recently, how could our government suck so bad. It really is our own fault for letting it get this bad. I've realized that the leaders in Canada, are gutless little flounder fish who can't make quick decisions that would help the country. The banks, and the money system are so deeply embedded in society I highly doubt this nesara will be able to do what they proclaim. The fact they will 0 out everyones debt is one huge factor for support. There are alot of people who would support nesara I think just for the fresh start.

Things is, peaceful takeovers like this don't happen. Removing Bush might not be so hard, but cheney? other then the fact hes such a fat fuck he might not be able to be 'removed' the background parties backing them would strike nesara down so fast we'd all think nesara were terrorists by the end of it.

Forceful action must take place. The people of their own countries need to tear down the government piece by piece. Buildings destroyed, politicians killed and then we might have some progress towards change. Sadly this is how it works, and when the time comes i'll be supporting those who understand that people don't need money, we need community.
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well I'm sure if more people knew about this NESARA then they would jump on the bandwagon. People aren't stupid they may be mislead and a little gullible, but the majority of people are rational good people. It's the 1 out of 10 people that keep bringing us down with their negativity.

The government and economic systems are collapsing from the inside out and the outside in. There is no stop to this. This is going to happen whether people want it or not. NESARA brings a great solution to the table that many people if they know about it will support.

I really don't understand why people insist on this not being a possibility. The possiblity of a world at peace that takes care of everyone instead of letting people go without food, shelter, and clothing. There is a solution to every problem we have. It's not hard, all we have to do is work togather

The problem of tearing down governments and killing politicians is not a solution to the problem. You can't just bring more negative energy to a situation and expect a positive result. There is always a peaceful solution to the problem however hard it may seem to grasp with our understanding.
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Old 07-23-2008, 12:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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To deal with evil, you must use some evil. In some rare cases good can overcome the evil, but those are normally called fairy tales.

Not to nit pick, but i'm quite open minded. And from what i've read in that post I can't help but not agree with what their saying. For instance here's a bit of their thinking.

"To expect that we as a planetary society are ready for galactic
contact before we have achieved planetary peace seems like putting the
cart before the horse. Government and financial changes must occur
before general galactic contact. To look at and become involved in
what needs changing in ourselves, and thus in our outer environment,
is the first step toward the Golden Age we claim to be coming into."

Why do we have to be all at peace before reaching out into space? What about those who don't want to reach out, or don't want to stop fighting? Why can't we have different factions, all from here reaching out. Things like this are similiar to religion. They want everyone to conform to some new way of thinking? I understand its an 'open minded' way of thinking, but without some major influence from the so called galactic federation, people won't have any of this.

For now things like the Orion Project are a little more grounded and headed in the right direction. These guys come off as hopeful preachers. Still let me know how to get my debt put to 0 and i'm in
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Old 07-23-2008, 02:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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"Why do we have to be all at peace before reaching out into space"
Well lets say your an intelligent, peaceful race out there. Would you want the earthlings to develop technology, like anti-gravity and the ability to change or destroy planets and solar systems? I know it would probly not be a very good thing with the way humanity has treated it's own planet and eachother to be galivanting around the cosmos doing whatever the hell they pleased.

"Why do we have to be all at peace before reaching out into space? What about those who don't want to reach out, or don't want to stop fighting? Why can't we have different factions, all from here reaching out. Things like this are similiar to religion. They want everyone to conform to some new way of thinking? I understand its an 'open minded' way of thinking, but without some major influence from the so called galactic federation, people won't have any of this."

Yea you brought up a very good point Oxll. It's true that everyone might not want sunshine, rainbows, and peace everywhere, and that is a fact. We don't have to "conform" to anything if we don't want! Which is a good thing, it's all about free will and thats what we have. The earth is a living organism, we are all indivuals but yet we are all part of the same organism. She herself wants to evolve, and in doing that she can't take things to her higher evolution. You can think of it as you yourself are as an organism, when you get sick and want to get better, you can't take things that make you sick with you to get better (probly not the greatest explanation). It's all about choice and thats what we all have individually and collectively. That doesn't mean that if you don't want to choose to be a part of this new evolution that you are going to be a bad or evil person, it just means that you want to learn more and experience more in the reality that we live in now.

I'm really not the type of person to explain these things but I will be glad to talk to you more in messages if you want a more in depth conversation. Or better yet my msn is cloud_555@msn.com if you want to discuss this issue more with me. I definetly didn't want to get into a philosophical debate about these things because it tends to push people away, but it is very important that people know they have free will and there is nothing that will change that.

I know that many people are confused right now and the unbelievable amount of (mis)information and discussion on these topics are overwhelmingly confusing. I promise there will be more answers as time goes on, and the more people look at it indivually the more they will understand what is going on. Well at least that was the case for me.

I really meant this to be for a political thing also. Yes all this outer space business is interesting but the real problem is our government and economy, and I was just trying to give this as a possible solution to it.

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You made some good points there. I do agree that if you gave us some super weapon technology, we'd probably use it on ourselves. People as individuals are smart enough to realize that peace is a better alternative. Its the group think that screws us over. For instance, we're the only two who are discussing this topic. The others probably didn't even get through the first 2 paragraphs of your original post. Why? Cause as a group they think this kind of thinking is a waste of time, or just rubbish. Yet as an individual if they read this they'll want for this evolution to occur. Then they'll dismiss it again to themselves once back into a group of people.

This 'blockage' that seems to be holding people back has been taught to us by the churches, and communities. What I was trying to get at is that for the Nesara to pull of what it wants, its going to be really difficult. I'm interested in talking further on the subject, and even getting involved if possible.

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