United States Economy

[TimePants]

How bad is it going to get before it levels off and gets better?

Here are a couple things to consider with this:

1)Welfare has been ruining america since its inception. Why would people join the workforce when they can get the same food and place to live without working?

2)The US Federal Reserve Note is an intangible thing. It's value is what it is percieved to be by the US and the nations it does business with.

3)Human Rights programs, like femenists, demand that a woman in the same position as a man in a company make the same wage as the man. So, what if the woman doesn't work as hard, or doesn't have the exact same level of responsibility? There goes the free market.

4)Minimum wage laws make it so an employer must pay a certain level or else he is in trouble with the government. This is none of the government's business. If people are not willing to work for less than a certain level, then those jobs wouldn't get done.

There are tons more that I don't have a clue about, so please, contribute and argue.

[Oxll Sunslayer]

Some interesting points there. Those are just the tip of the iceberg.

Iraq is still a huge drain on your economy.

These presidential primaries are taking up HUGE amounts of tax dollars, and people seem to just keep voting.

Cost of energy has been increasing rapidly. You import most of your energy, so thats another factor.

Just on a side note... What was the point about the women? Just cause some feminist bitches and complains like bitches do best, doesn't mean that it will hurt your economy. Women in the work force aren't a burden. They are just as skilled these days, and they are getting paid about the same as men in the same role. The only issues I have with women in the work force is when something that requires top level certification in particular aspects, breaks the standards to fill a quota ie. Fire Fighters.

After the elections your country will climb out of the rut. During elections, stocks etc... will always dip, and so will corporate investments. Fiscal policies are going to change so why start something if your not sure how the rules affecting you will change.

[TimePants]

Originally Posted by Oxll Sunslayer

Just on a side note... What was the point about the women? Just cause some feminist bitches and complains like bitches do best, doesn't mean that it will hurt your economy. Women in the work force aren't a burden. They are just as skilled these days, and they are getting paid about the same as men in the same role. The only issues I have with women in the work force is when something that requires top level certification in particular aspects, breaks the standards to fill a quota ie. Fire Fighters.

I just mean that its wrong for the governent to tell a business how much they have to pay someone, because it undermines the "hard work = more money" principal.

[Gwenchicken]

Originally Posted by TimePants

3)Human Rights programs, like femenists, demand that a woman in the same position as a man in a company make the same wage as the man. So, what if the woman doesn't work as hard, or doesn't have the exact same level of responsibility? There goes the free market.

At this point, gender doesn't really matter. If someone doesn't have as much responsibility or doesn't work as hard, they shouldn't be making the same no matter what gender they are. Obviously this isn't what typically happens in reality, but it's how it should be.

[Gwenchicken]

Originally Posted by Oxll Sunslayer

Just on a side note... What was the point about the women? Just cause some feminist bitches and complains like bitches do best, doesn't mean that it will hurt your economy. Women in the work force aren't a burden. They are just as skilled these days, and they are getting paid about the same as men in the same role. The only issues I have with women in the work force is when something that requires top level certification in particular aspects, breaks the standards to fill a quota ie. Fire Fighters.

I actually agree with you on something for once, Oxll
I do agree on the Firefighters comment that in some circumstances, a woman simply cannot perform at a level that is required (but this could be true even if a man cannot compete at the same level of another man) like with firefighters. They have grueling tasks they have to accomplish that require lifting "X" amount of pounds, for example. Whether they are a man or a woman, if they simply cannot compete with the requirements, the rules should not be bent to accomodate them. Especially with a life-saving job.

[Phooey]

I'll write up a proper reply later, but I just wanted to say welcome back TimePants.

[Oxll Sunslayer]

Originally Posted by Gwenchicken

I actually agree with you on something for once, Oxll
I do agree on the Firefighters comment that in some circumstances, a woman simply cannot perform at a level that is required (but this could be true even if a man cannot compete at the same level of another man) like with firefighters. They have grueling tasks they have to accomplish that require lifting "X" amount of pounds, for example. Whether they are a man or a woman, if they simply cannot compete with the requirements, the rules should not be bent to accomodate them. Especially with a life-saving job.

I'm not all bad! I can make good points too

[Princess]

I have to agree. You made several good points. Iraq is a HUGE drain on our economy. I, too, want the primaries to die. It is a pointless, antiquated popularity contest and it pisses me off to no end. I know Phooey and I don't see eye to eye on this, but I find it extremely irritating.

[TimePants]

Originally Posted by Princess

I have to agree. You made several good points. Iraq is a HUGE drain on our economy. I, too, want the primaries to die. It is a pointless, antiquated popularity contest and it pisses me off to no end. I know Phooey and I don't see eye to eye on this, but I find it extremely irritating.

Not just the primaries but tthe 2 party system should die too.

[Jarex]

The U.S. economy is going to collapse, or more precisely the dollar. Of course you won't see any of this actual news on the media. This is going to affect a lot of countries that use this currency. I would start looking at real Commodities like gold and silver, even food. What real worth does the dollar have anyway but a piece of paper? This will probly happen within a year, probably going to happen sooner rather then later.

I know it's a dark and disturbing thing to look at, and even if you don't agree with me at least look at the possibility. Do any of us actually talk about the economy collapsing? Do any of us actually think about what will happen if it does?

[TimePants]

Originally Posted by Jarex

Do any of us actually think about what will happen if it does?

This is why I own guns.

[Oxll Sunslayer]

Originally Posted by TimePants

This is why I own guns.

This is why its great to be Canadian

First, your dollar has dipped already. Yes it may go lower before recovering, but this is not the beginning of anarchy and looting. You won't need to use that gun anytime soon. Perhaps 2012, but its not going to get much worse. You may think its going to get worse, but having as many foreclosures as you guys did this year is as bad as it gets. You may not personally be affected, but over a million american families have been displaced by these foreclosures, and don't have a place to live. Almost like hearing about the families in iraq not having a place to live. Just a much lower percentage of your population have been displaced so you don't even notice.

[truOnyx]

Another issue we have to consider is unemployment. I know firsthand how it is right now trying to get a new job. I think after this summer we will see more effects upfront. Without as many people able to afford long and or expensive vacations, those markets that depend on seasonal revenue are going to hurt. Think about what you would have to do today if you lost your job. Would you be able to survive and bounce back before things get worse?

[TimePants]

Originally Posted by truOnyx

Another issue we have to consider is unemployment. I know firsthand how it is right now trying to get a new job. I think after this summer we will see more effects upfront. Without as many people able to afford long and or expensive vacations, those markets that depend on seasonal revenue are going to hurt. Think about what you would have to do today if you lost your job. Would you be able to survive and bounce back before things get worse?

Yeah, getting a job is pretty hard these days especially if you are like me and you don't have a degree or any civillian relevant experiance (what employer wants people whose main skillset is destroying the enemy?).

I'm having a load of trouble as it is paying for rent and gasoline, let alone taking vacations (which I've never done anyway).

Is anyone here good at writing resume's?

I could use some help

[JayTee]

Originally Posted by TimePants

Yeah, getting a job is pretty hard these days especially if you are like me and you don't have a degree or any civillian relevant experiance (what employer wants people whose main skillset is destroying the enemy?).

I'm having a load of trouble as it is paying for rent and gasoline, let alone taking vacations (which I've never done anyway).

Is anyone here good at writing resume's?

I could use some help

Speaking of which, the resume system is just itching to be tossed in the bin aswell. We already have job-market based websites, an electronic employer/employee system could easily be developed, used by everyone, and be saving resources the next day. We can live in a world where employers should easily find employees, land lords finding tennants ext.

But no, they would rather pretend to save resources with electronic voting, while trying to convince us that there are less chances of fraud.

2)The US Federal Reserve Note is an intangible thing. It's value is what it is percieved to be by the US and the nations it does business with.

"the Federal Reserve Banks are "independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations", and there is not sufficient "federal government control over 'detailed physical performance' and 'day to day operation'" of the Federal Reserve Bank for it to be considered a federal agency:"

criminal isn't it?

A tent/shanty city sprung up in southern california back in January.

YouTube - Southern California Shanty Town / Tent...

I'll have to finish the rest of this post up later since this is a huge subject.